Justin and Jason discuss Justin's two-week work trip to Chicago, Sebastien Arnaud's recent visit to Pasadena, the tradeoffs of using a custom/personal framework vs a popular open-source framework, how Justin hired listener Jeremy Logan to work with Digedu, balancing feature development with stability work, why Justin is moving from Rackspace to AWS in order to avoid the single point of failure problem, how he was unable to sell Pluggio on Flippa and how he's going to try selling it through a broker, the summer Catalyst sessions and the effort to get Mindstorm robots to communicate with one another using Bluetooth, NCSS - the five-week online programming competition out of the University of Sydney, how Jason has been bribing his 8-year old son Colby with movies and ice cream to complete all of the DragonBox 12+ levels, Jason's thoughts on how you might extend the Dragonbox model to other STEM subjects such as electronics and physics, the potential for Google Glass to usher in a 'little brother' future and Jason Calacanis' recent screed on the subject, how the Man of Steel is more of a science fiction movie than a superhero movie, how the 5D 'superman memory' crystal can store 360 TB/disk, is stable up to 1000 degrees celsius and lasts a million years, futuristic user interfaces, the science behind controlling a quadcopter with a brain-computer interface, the show Through the Wormhole, the Instructible for creating an EEG cap, how the SpaceX Grasshopper rocket completed a 325m vertical landing, the speculation around Elon Musk's Hyperloop concept, how a self-flying Navy drone successfully landed on an aircraft carrier, the US government's strategy for minimizing revelations about the NSA's unconstitutional spying, Snowden's deadman switch, the the fact that the NSA is basically collecting everything and that the FISA court is a complete joke, DARPA’s real-world terminator, how an Oklahoma City hospital's posting of surgery prices online is creating a bidding war, PHP's comeback and why Laravel is going to become the Rails of PHP, and Boom, the volume booster for the Mac.