Justin and Jason discuss the NSA domestic surveillance story, including James Bamford's 2012 Wired article on the subject, how Edward Snowden revealed classified documents showing Hong Kong hacking targets, whether the fallout will effect US businesses, the NSA's definition of "collect", why Snowden leaked to Glenn Greenwald, the change in poll numbers on the subject, Jason's cheeky idea for an NSA video game and strategies for monitoring and storing vast quantities of domestic surveillance data, the NSA whistleblowers Thomas Drake and William Binney, the problem with partisanship, candidate Obama debating president Obama on government surveillance, how Microsoft is giving away zero-day exploits to the government, what Jason would do if he was working at Google and received a National Security Letter, how the vast majority of terrorist plots were organized by the FBI and how the NSA missed all of the recent terrorist plots including the Boston Marathon bombings, the Church Committee and Operation Mockingbird, the nature of power and the fundamental law of human nature, predictions on what will happen to Snowden, the TechZing wiki, Justin's authentic dim sum experience at Lunasia, how economic mobility has been decreasing in the United States, Jason's recent trip to San Diego and Sea World, Jonathon Kresner's Airpair, some ideas for how to market AnyFu, why Justin is putting Pluggio on Flippa, World War Z and the robot Justin didn't buy.