Justin and Jason discuss Udi's stay in Pasadena and his working relationship with Justin, how to manage sessions between a Javascript client and a RESTful API, solving the Catalyst network problems and why Jason thinks Javascript isn't the easiest language for kids to learn, thoughts on the Code.org video, how Pluggio was hacked, the evolution of the Catalyst stack and how Jason uses Node.js in combination with LAMP, the tradeoffs of building a startup on cutting edge technologies, the progress being made on AnyFu, the results of the Uber nearest cabs challenge, Jason's thoughts on the Upverter hackathon, the SHIELD Act and how patent trolls are going after popular podcasters, Justin's TV recommendations and why Jason listens to podcasts about the The Walking Dead, and Udi's concluding thoughts on America.