Justin and Jason talk about how Jason's mail was stolen, some of the limitations with Phone Gap, the engineering salaries of Silicon Valley startups, the ridiculous cost of housing, Jason's idea for gamifying personal finance, incentivizing kids with cash, how NASA's Advanced Propulsion Physics Lab is working on the possibility of a warp drive, the new matter created by the Large Hadron Collider, how an advanced alien race (if they exist) might not be all that interested in communicating with us, Jason's Freakonomics and Singularity Summit binge, the future of 3D printing, the meaning of life without money, Micho Kaku's vision of the world in 2030 and what he envisioned a phone would do and look like, why Jason still hasn't purchased a backup system, how Brendan Dunn is making five figures a month off a bootstrapped product, whether or not to do interviews, a new approach to recruiting AnyFu experts, how to explain functions to kids and the possibility of using a combination of both a challenge system and personal projects in Catalyst, Jason's idea of how to explain advanced mathematical algorithms without using mathematical notation, Jason's bizarre knee problem and finally how a provision in the House-passed NDAA bill would overturn the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 prohibiting the U.S. government from using propaganda against it's own citizens.