Justin and Jason discuss WordPress backup site BlogVault, the backlash on the Skype 5 UI and the possibility for a Skype competitor, the guerrilla tactics behind bootstrapping a startup, methods of sending email through code, Anonymous and the Wikileaks controversy, why Jason is irritated by Justin's iPhone email trailer, securing images on a web server, why arguing is pointless, Justin's eager vs Jason's lazy approach to abstracting code, why Jason feels that switching to Subversion has been a waste of his time and understanding the motivation equation.