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How can you test your code when you don’t know what’s in it?

March 31, 2026 00:30:18 29.08 MB Downloads: 0

Ryan hosts SmartBear’s VP of AI and Architecture Fitz Nowlan to explore how we’re moving away from old assumptions about software development, the challenges of testing MCP servers as LLM-driven agents introduce non-determinism that breaks tradition, and how data locality and data construction are becoming more valuable when source code is so easy to generate.

Episode notes: 

SmartBear gives devs tools for application performance monitoring, software development, software testing, and API management—all at AI speed and scale.

Connect with Fitz on LinkedIn and email him at FitzNowlan@SmartBear.com 

Congrats to Great Answer winner Alexander for winning the badge for their answer to Is there a way to make Runnable's run() throw an exception?.

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