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The Brief, Controversial Tenure of Kirstjen Nielsen
Kirstjen Nielsen was forced out as secretary of homeland security, even after carrying out and defending President Trump’s hard-line immigration policies. We look at why that wasn’t enough. Guest: Caitlin Dickerson, who covers immigration for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.
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