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The Fight at the Center of the Government Shutdown

October 02, 2025 00:21:54 4.11 MB ( 16.91 MB less) Downloads: 0

As the U.S. government shutdown enters its second day, Democrats are trying to underline that the growing political fight is all about the rising cost of health care.

The New York Times journalists Margot Sanger-Katz and Shane Goldmacher explain why the Democrats are betting on this strategy and who is to blame for the impasse.

Guest:

  • Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter for The New York Times who covers health care policy and government spending.
  • Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.

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