In this episode, I talked to David DeRemer, the Founder and President of Very Good Ventures. VGV, Very Good Ventures, is a global Flutter development consultancy. Their work and apps were featured on multiple global Flutter events, for example, they built the first major Flutter desktop app, the Flutter slides app for Flutter Live 18, as well as the Google I/O photo booth app, the multiplatform New York Times KENKEN game, and the Hamilton app.

I talked to David about Very Good Ventures, why they went all-in on Flutter, how the Flutter ecosystem has grown since the company was founded, we’ll talk about open source development, building things reliably and consistently, the importance of testing, and David also shared with us the approach they took to building a great team.

Guest: David DeRemer

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Very Good Ventures

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• GitHub @VGVentures and @VeryGoodOpenSource
• Blog verygood.ventures/blog
• LinkedIn Very Good Ventures
• pub.dev/publishers/verygood.ventures

Host: Vince Varga

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Most relevant past episodes from Flutter 101

• Product Owner's Perspective on Flutter with Tom Arra (Episode 4) - Tom Arra is a Program Manager at Very Good Ventures. Previously, he worked as Product Owner at BMW, Microsoft, and Nokia. We talked about his experience with Flutter as a Product Owner.
• Codemagic with CEO Martin Jeret (Episode 2) - We talked to Martin Jeret about Codemagic, CI/CD for mobile apps, and other challenges Flutter developers face.
• Flutter Development Experience with Chris Sells (Episode 16) - Chris Sells is a Senior Product Manager at Google on Flutter. Chris is responsible for the end-to-end development experience, as well as tooling, the package ecosystem, and the desktop platform support. We talked about all that!

Mentioned packages

• pub.dev/packages/very_good_analysis - "Lint rules for Dart and Flutter used internally at Very Good Ventures."
• pub.dev/packages/very_good_cli - "A Very Good Command Line Interface for Dart created by Very Good Ventures."
• pub.dev/packages/very_good_performance - "Utility on top of the Flutter Driver API that facilitates measuring the performance of your app in an automated way."
• pub.dev/packages/provider - "A wrapper around InheritedWidget to make them easier to use and more reusable."
• pub.dev/packages/bloc - "A predictable state management library that helps implement the BLoC (Business Logic Component) design pattern."

Other resources

• VGV Blog: Flutter 101 Podcast: Thoughts on Flutter Consulting, Open Source, and Testing - "For companies looking to open source their software, David advises that they do so thoughtfully and with the ultimate intention of helping the Flutter Community."
• Google Developers Blog: Behind the scenes: How the Google I/O photo booth was made - "The Flutter and Firebase teams joined forces to build a best in class example of Flutter on the web that used Firebase for hosting, auth, performance monitoring, and social sharing."
• How It’s Made: I/O Photo Booth - "We (the folks at Very Good Ventures) teamed up with Google to bring an interactive experience to this year’s Google I/O: a photo booth!"
• My Internship at Very Good Ventures: Dennis - "This past summer I was given the opportunity to work at Very Good Ventures as an Engineering Intern where I was able to dive headfirst into Flutter app development."
• Flutter Docs - List of state management solutions - "State management is a complex topic. If you feel that some of your questions haven’t been answered, or that the approach described on these pages is not viable for your use cases, you are probably right."