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My name is Jonathan Stark and I’m on a mission to rid the earth of hourly billing. I hope that Ditching Hourly will help achieve this, one listener at a time 🙂

Genevieve Hayes - Podcasting for Expertise-Based Businesses

April 28, 2026 1:26:35 14.37 MB ( 193.42 MB less) Downloads: 0

Data science consultant and podcast host Genevieve Hayes joined me on Ditching Hourly to talk about podcasting as a boost for an expertise-based business.


Chapters

  • 00:00 - Genevieve Hayes and Value-Driven Data Science
  • 02:27 - Committing to Start a Podcast
  • 05:35 - Simple Production Is Good Enough
  • 07:02 - First Guests and Inbound Momentum
  • 11:46 - The 100-Episode Surprises
  • 15:07 - Relationships Beat Direct Lead Gen
  • 18:12 - Pitching Guests and Building Luck Surface Area
  • 29:30 - Buyers, Peers, and Referral Paths
  • 34:58 - Almost Quitting, Seasons, and Persistence
  • 39:00 - Preparation, Editing, and Production Workflow
  • 42:18 - Editing as Learning and Content Fuel
  • 49:20 - What You Actually Need to Start
  • 58:20 - Guest Referrals, Swaps, and Live Formats
  • 68:40 - Podcasting vs. Writing for Trust
  • 78:30 - Landing Dream Guests and Wrap-Up

Guest Bio

Genevieve Hayes is an actuary and statistician-turned-data scientist who helps organizations improve decision-making by quantifying uncertainty, often when data is sparse. She became a soloist in early 2022 and provides data science consulting services. She also mentors data professionals who want to transform their technical skills into strategic expertise and move from tactical execution to strategic advisory roles. Genevieve hosts Value-Driven Data Science, a podcast for practicing data professionals making that technical-to-strategic shift. Learn more at Value-Driven Data Science. 


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Things like:

  • Value pricing your work instead of billing for your time?
  • Positioning yourself as the go-to person in your space?
  • Productizing your services so you never have to have another awkward sales call or spend hours writing another custom proposal?

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