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All the stale things (JS Party #115)
Divya leads a deep discussion with Jerod, KBall, and Nick on what’s stagnating in browsers. What has remained the same in browser tech over the last 20 years that remains a pain point in working with browsers? For example - Focus in browsers hasn’t changed much in 20 years. Why is that and how do we go about making all the stale things in browser tech better?
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Featuring
- Divya – Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
- Jerod Santo – Twitter, GitHub
- Kevin Ball – Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
- Nick Nisi – Twitter, GitHub, Website
Notes and Links
Segment 1: APIs that were not developed
- [Proposal] Focus Traversal API
- Input elements are still terrible; CSS appearance property
- Container queries
- Dates still suck, but they are being fixed
- Luxon
- Web Components (RIP?)
- BUT Shadow DOM
- Consistency of CSS Properties BUT Houdini
- Button cursor — why do still have to do
button { cursor: pointer; }
??? - SVG amazing but still 2nd class citizen
- Accessibility should be down in the browser
Segment 2: Hypothesizing
- Why didn’t these APIs get anywhere?
- What would’ve needed to happen for them to have progressed?
- Browser wars; the move towards chromium
Segment 3: Shout-outs!!
(in order of appearance)
- KBall: Rachel Andrew’s CSS Grid articles: Understanding CSS Grid: Creating A Grid Container and Understanding CSS Grid: Grid Lines
- Jerod: Justine Haupt’s open source DIY rotary cell phone
- Nick: Tatiana Mac’s talk titled How Privilege Defines Performance
- Divya: Understanding the ECMAScript spec, part 1
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