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How the World Got Owned Episode 2: The 1990s, Part One
April 02, 2026
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In this special documentary episode, Patrick Gray and Amberleigh Jack take a look back at hacking throughout the 1990s, from the feel-good vibes of the early hacking communities to the antics of young hackers who wound up on the run from the FBI.
Part one features recollections from:
- Jeff Moss (The Dark Tangent), DefCon and Black Hat founder
- Chris Wysopal (Weld Pond), L0pht member, co-founder, @Stake
- Kevin Poulsen (Dark Dante), 1990s hacker turned journalist
- Elias Levy (Aleph One), author of Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit, Phrack, 1996
How the World Got Owned is produced in partnership with SentinelOne.
Show notes
- Elias Levy (Aleph1), Former Principle Engineer, Google
- Kevin Poulsen, Journalist
- Jeff Moss, DefCon founder
- Chris Wysopal, @Stake founder, L0pht member
- Hackers testifying at the United States Senate, May 19, 1998
- Hackers May ‘Net’ Good PR for Studio
- DefCon Archives | DefCon 1
- A Not So Terribly Brief History of the Electronic Frontier Foundation
- Innocent Hackers Want Their Computers Back
- Breakdowns in Computer Security
- Unsolved Mysteries, Season 3, Episode 4
- The Last Hacker: He Called Himself Dark Dante. His Compulsion Led Him to Secret Files and, Eventually, The Bar of Justice
- Justia appeal summary, Kevin Poulsen, 1994
- Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit, Phrack Magazine, November 1996
- From subversives to CEOs: How radical hackers built today’s cybersecurity industry