Hello! This is The Vergecast, the flagship podcast of The Verge... and your life. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn make sense of the week's tech news with help from our wide-ranging staff. Join us every week for a fun, deeply nerdy, often off-the-rails conversation about what's happening now (and next) in technology and gadgets.
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Reddit vs. Reddit: the latest on the fight for the platform
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Jay Peters discuss all the news about the API changes infuriating Redditors, as well as takeaways from Jay's interview with Reddit CEO Steve Huffman. Later on the show: will the Apple Vision Pro replace the TV? Further reading: Reddit CEO Steve Huffman isn’t backing down: our full interview Reddit CEO Steve Huffman: Reddit ‘was never designed to support third-party apps’ Reddit crashed because of the growing subreddit blackout Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’ How Reddit set itself up for a fall Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts The Apple Vision Pro might be a TV, but it won’t replace the TV Steve Jobs Showing off Macintosh to Andy Warhol, Keith Haring and Kenny Scharf in 1984 ~ Vintage Everyday In the bid to grow at all costs, Instant Pot is cooking itself and has filed for bankruptcy Live Nation-Ticketmaster to disclose full ticket prices upfront Twitter sued for $250 million by music publishers over ‘massive’ copyright infringement The Meater smart meat thermometer now supports the iPhone Dynamic Island and Live Activities. Instagram’s status update now includes what song you’re listening to It’s not just you: Steam suddenly looks nice Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The war for Reddit, new MacBook Air, and Meta's Twitter competitor
Today on the flagship podcast of suddenly private subreddits: 01:45 - David Pierce and Nilay Patel call up Christian Selig, who runs the popular Reddit app Apollo, to talk about the changes to the platform that have infuriated Redditors, and what it means for the future of Reddit. Reddit’s API updates: all the news about changes that have infuriated Redditors More than 6,000 subreddits have gone dark to protest Reddit’s API changes Apollo’s developer on Reddit’s new API changes, and why users revolted 46:15 - Then, David talks with deputy editor Alex Heath about Meta’s reaction to the new Apple Vision Pro headset, and that new Twitter competitor the company is launching. Here’s what Mark Zuckerberg thinks about Apple’s Vision Pro Instagram’s upcoming Twitter competitor shown in leaked screenshots 1:09:54 - After that, senior reviewer Monica Chin joins the show to discuss her review of Apple’s new 15-inch Macbook Air. Apple MacBook Air 15-inch review: exactly what was asked for 1:33:24 - Keep listening for this week’s Vergecast hotline question. www.babylist.com https://www.youtube.com/c/DadVerb Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Widgets are back, and everything else from WWDC
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss all the updates to Apple's iOS, macOS, watchOS, and iPadOS announced at WWDC this week. Later, Verge senior correspondent Liz Lopatto joins the show to explain the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) suing crypto exchanges Binance and Coinbase, and what it means for the future of crypto. Further reading: Apple WWDC 10 biggest announcements: Vision Pro, MacBook Air, iOS 17, and more watchOS 10 is bringing back widgets in a big way Apple’s iPadOS 17 adds personalized lock screen and interactive widgets Apple’s Siri will soon handle multiple smart home commands Apple’s iPadOS 17 adds personalized lock screen and interactive widgets Apple announces iOS 17 with StandBy charging mode and better autocorrect Standby is a new iOS 17 feature for your iPhone that could be great for Apple Home users Online age verification is coming, and privacy is on the chopping block Hands-on with the new 15-inch MacBook Air Apple announces macOS Sonoma with game mode and support for desktop widgets Mac Pro with M2 Ultra first look: boy, that’s a big chip All the features Apple didn’t mention in its WWDC 2023 keynote The SEC is suing crypto giant Binance, here’s all the details The SEC is trying to freeze Binance’s assets The SEC sues crypto exchange Coinbase for breaking US securities laws Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Vergecast vs WVFRM trivia!
The Vergecast's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Dan Seifert are challenged to a game of tech trivia by Waveform's Marques Brownlee, Andrew Manganelli, and David Imel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Apple’s Vision Pro: the headset of the future?
On Apple's campus, The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Dan Seifert discuss the long-rumored Apple Vision Pro that was announced this week at WWDC. Later, Marques Brownlee, Andrew Manganelli, and David Imel of the Waveform podcast join the show for a lightning round of everyone's favorite WWDC announcements. Coming soon: the Vergecast and Waveform team challenge each other to trivia! Further reading: Apple WWDC 10 biggest announcements: Vision Pro, MacBook Air, iOS 17, and more Apple Vision Pro is Apple’s new $3,499 AR headset Apple announces visionOS, the operating system for its Vision Pro headset Apple Vision Pro first look: the mixed reality future is (almost) here I wore the Apple Vision Pro. It’s the best headset demo ever. Optic ID will unlock Apple’s new Vision Pro headset Apple’s Vision Pro headset will turn you into a digital avatar when FaceTiming Everywhere Apple imagines you’ll use its $3,500 Vision Pro headset Apple’s new VR headset will feature over 100 Apple Arcade games at launch Disney Plus and VR sports games are coming to Apple Vision Pro Microsoft Word, Excel, and Teams are all coming to Apple’s new Vision Pro headset What’s so ‘pro’ about Apple’s Vision Pro headset? The Vision Pro headset is really Apple’s first TV Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Meta’s Quest 3 revealed and a WWDC preview
The Verge's David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Adi Robertson discuss Meta's new Quest 3 VR headset that was announced ahead of Apple's WWDC event, which is widely believed to showcase an Apple headset. Deputy editor Dan Seifert joins the show to discuss the rest of the WWDC rumors and theories. Further reading: Meta announces its Quest 3 VR headset, which will cost $499.99 The biggest announcements from Meta's Quest Gaming Showcase Apple’s mixed reality headset: all the reports about the rumored AR / VR headset Apple’s VR headset might run tweaked versions of iPad apps WWDC 2023: what to expect at Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference Apple might announce ‘several’ Macs at WWDC The Motorola Razr Plus' new cover screen is a big deal Amazon Echo Pop review: Alexa for less Hot foldable summer is here, and there are good reasons to get excited Range Rover’s next luxury add-on: A car seat that vibrates to music The ultimate “what is a photo?” gadget. Lisa's Final Act: how Apple invented its future by burying its past Kid Cop Returns (Again and Again) Email us vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The two computers that made Apple
Today on the flagship podcast of third-party operating systems: The Verge's David Pierce chats with Laine Nooney, author of The Apple II Age: How The Computer Became Personal. Later, lead video producer Will Poor chats with David about The Verge's new documentary Lisa’s Final Act: How Apple invented its future by burying its past. To end the show: a hotline question. How to transfer playlists from Spotify to Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, or Tidal Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. We'll be answering a question every Wednesday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Microsoft’s big AI Build and Max’s messy streaming launch
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Tom Warren discuss the biggest announcements from Microsoft Build 2023. Later, the crew discuss the launch of Warner Bros. Discovery’s combined streaming service Max. Further reading: Elon Musk fails to launch Ron DeSantis in disastrous Twitter Space Microsoft Build 2023: The 5 biggest announcements Microsoft’s Copilot and Bing AI plug-ins will be interoperable with ChatGPT Bing is now the default search for ChatGPT Microsoft 365 Copilot is getting plug-ins Microsoft’s Edge browser is getting the 365 Copilot AI assistant Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott thinks Sydney might make a comeback Microsoft announces Windows Copilot, an AI ‘personal assistant’ for Windows 11 Max has arrived, and it’ll feel very familiar to HBO Max customers Max will stream over 1,000 movies and TV episodes in 4K at launch Warner Bros. Discovery apologizes for crediting writers and directors as ‘creators’ on Max HBO Max remote button killed in Max rebrand — 9to5Mac HBO Max now Max: lacks native video player features; 'Up Next' support bugs - 9to5Mac Sony’s new Q handheld is official: 8-inch screen, streams PS5 games Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Why AM radio and Ethernet still matter, and why Zelda keeps winning
Today on the flagship podcast of the Purah Pad: 02:19 - Senator Ed Markey chats with Nilay Patel about the importance of keeping AM radio in cars after many EV manufacturers have started to remove it from new models. Cars would be required to keep AM radio under new bipartisan bill The shift to EVs is slowly killing off AM radio — and that’s bad for emergency broadcasts 22:09 - Alex Cranz and Sean Hollister talk with SVP of networking at Nvidia Kevin Deierling live at the Computer History Museum for the 50th anniversary of ethernet about the future of connectivity. Wired: 50 years of ethernet 52:51 - David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Ash Parrish discuss why The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom works so well and what the rest of the gaming world should do about it. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom review: new powers, new places, but less wonder A conversation with The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom’s creative leads Tears of the Kingdom’s dungeons were designed with seamlessness in mind Tips and tricks to get you through Tears of the Kingdom Zelda players turned Tears of the Kingdom into a Korok torture chamber The wildest Tears of the Kingdom builds we’ve seen Tears of the Kingdom’s puzzle designers are fantastic trolls Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom walkthrough and guides - Polygon Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Montana bans TikTok. Also, FREE TV
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Adi Robertson discuss Montana being the first state to ban TikTok, the Supreme Court ruling against reexamining Section 230, and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman testifying before the Senate. Then, David interviews vlogger Hank Green about the TikTok ban in Montana. Later, Verge senior news editor Richard Lawler joins the show to discuss this week in gadgets, from the free Telly TV to the Beats Studio Buds Plus. TikTok is now banned in Montana: here’s what you need to know Montana bans Telegram, WeChat, and Temu from government devices TikTok ban: all the news on attempts to ban the video platform Supreme Court puts off showdown over Texas and Florida social media laws Supreme Court rules against reexamining Section 230 Congress hates Big Tech — but it still seems optimistic about AI This free TV comes with two screens The free TV company briefly wasn’t sure what it should do with data from kids Amazon’s latest Echo Buds have an all-new design and much cheaper price Amazon’s new Echo Pop is a $40 smart speaker Beats Studio Buds Plus review: it’s cool to be clear CueCat YouTube is bringing unskippable 30-second ads to TV Max promises shorter ad breaks than other streamers when it launches May 23rd Netflix’s ad tier has attracted almost 5 million users Apparently, they were all losers in the race to 5G. Tesla’s humanoid robot can pick things up and put them down Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Into It: The Conversation We’re NOT Having About AI
Today we're sharing an episode of Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders AI is making fake Drake/The Weeknd songs, weird images, and there’s a worry that TV and movie scripts could be written by ChatGPT. But it’s also about to dramatically change the way we consume, share, and obsess over pop culture. Nilay Patel, Editor-in-Chief of The Verge, explains to Sam how pretty much everything we search on the internet is mediated by Google… and how AI is about to disrupt it all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Google I/O recap: AI is taking over Search
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the big announcements and takeaways from Google I/O 2023. Further reading: The nine biggest announcements from Google I/O 2023 The AI takeover of Google Search starts now Google Perspectives: the new search feature helps you find human information online Google rebrands AI tools for Docs and Gmail as Duet AI — its answer to Microsoft’s Copilot Google’s new Magic Editor uses AI to totally transform your photos Google drops waitlist for AI chatbot Bard and announces oodles of new features Google announces PaLM 2 AI language model, already powering 25 Google services Google teases Project Tailwind — a prototype AI notebook that learns from your documents Android’s new generative AI can reply to your texts and design its own wallpaper Google’s Find My Device will soon use billions of Android devices to locate your stuff Google is bringing YouTube, Waze, and Zoom to cars with native Android software The Pixel Fold is Google’s $1,800 entry into folding phones Google’s new Pixel Tablet is a $500 slate for the home Google Pixel 7A review: a better deal Google’s new Project Starline prototype isn’t a giant booth Disney is finally combining Hulu and Disney Plus into the same app Apple launches Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro on iPad with new subscription pricing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Google AI and foldable phones
Today on the flagship podcast of unfolded aspect ratios: 01:03 -The Verge's David Pierce, Nilay Patel, and Alex Cranz discuss the present and future state of Google — it’s this big, complicated, massively successful company that suddenly feels like it’s under threat in a huge number of ways. The crew lay out the stakes and try to figure out where Google is headed. Hot takes included. 38:55 - David, Allison Johnson, and Dan Seifert talk about the hardware revealed at Google I/O: the Pixel 7A, the Pixel Tablet, and the Pixel Fold. Further reading: Google I/O 2023: news, rumors, and announcements What happens when Google Search doesn't have the answers? The Pixel Fold is Google’s $1,800 entry into folding phones Google’s new Pixel Tablet is a $500 slate for the home Google Pixel 7A review: a better deal Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Bluesky's rise and AI's fall
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Sarah Jeong discuss Bluesky gaining popularity and why it may be Twitter's most chaotic successor. Also: is AI going too far too soon? Further reading: shop.theverge.com Google announces the Pixel Fold Everything happening on Bluesky, Twitter’s most chaotic successor Bluesky is starting to feel like Twitter Mozilla’s new Mozilla.Social Mastodon instance is an attempt to reinvent content moderation ‘Godfather of AI’ quits Google with regrets and fears about his life’s work White House rolls out plan to promote ethical AI Snapchat is already testing sponsored links in its My AI chatbot New ChatGPT Zillow plug-in rolls out to select users today AI is being used to generate whole spam sites AI offers new tools for making games, but developers worry about their jobs Writers are striking and AI rights are on the table. Microsoft is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge, and IT admins are angry Microsoft’s Bing chatbot gets smarter with restaurant bookings, image results, and more Andreessen Horowitz saw the future — but did the future leave it behind? Now Gmail has blue verified checkmark icons too Google accounts now support passkeys for password-free sign-in Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The director’s episode: how tech makes movies
Today on the flagship podcast of questionable .mkv files: 02:46 - The Verge's David Pierce chats with Matt Johnson, director of the upcoming movie BlackBerry about what tech movies get wrong, why the BlackBerry really died, and how to portray the rise and fall of a top-of-the-world gadget. BlackBerry director Matt Johnson on why the iPhone won and why most tech movies suck 30:38 - David and Vergecast producer Andru Marino try to find out why it's so hard to find director's commentary on streaming services and the obstacles movie fans go through to listen to them. Where’s the director’s commentary on streaming? 57:25 - David talks with the directors and producer of the movie Missing about a new genre of movies that take place entirely on a computer screen, and how they get made. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices