Hello! This is The Vergecast, the flagship podcast of The Verge... and your life. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn make sense of the week's tech news with help from our wide-ranging staff. Join us every week for a fun, deeply nerdy, often off-the-rails conversation about what's happening now (and next) in technology and gadgets.
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Apple's encryption controversy, Bezos's hacked phone, and Sonos stopping old product updates
Stories from this week: Trump demands Apple unlock iPhones: ‘They have the keys to so many criminals and criminal minds’ How to FBI-proof your encrypted iPhone backups Can Apple live up to Apple’s privacy ads? Apple rejects AG Barr’s claim that it didn’t assist with Pensacola shooting probe The FBI has asked Apple to unlock another shooter’s iPhone Senator asks Jeff Bezos for more information on Saudi-linked hack Saudi Arabian prince reportedly hacked Jeff Bezos’ phone with malicious WhatsApp message PSA: Never open a WhatsApp message from the crown prince of Saudi Arabia Here’s a first look at Android on Microsoft’s dual-screen Surface Duo Microsoft’s software plan for the Duo Android phone is surprisingly realistic Introduction to dual-screen devices Motorola’s foldable Razr will launch on February 6th after delay Cruise driverless taxi: no steering wheel, no pedals Sonos will stop providing software updates for its oldest products in May Comcast plans price hikes for cable customers as it looks ahead to streaming Peacock launch Google’s ads just look like search results now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Rep. David Cicilline on regulating big tech monopolies
After a congressional hearing with executives from Sonos, Tile, Basecamp, and PopSockets, the chairman of the House Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law, Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI), speaks to The Verge’s Nilay Patel and Adi Robertson about leading an investigation into how big tech platforms like Google, Amazon, and Apple are affecting competition for other tech companies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August's Yves Behar and Jason Johnson unlock the smart home
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel interviews Yves Behar and Jason Jason, co-founders of the smartlock company August about their new products, the state of the smart home, and making products that work in both European and American homes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su talks new Ryzen 4000 chips and out-performing Intel
Editor-in-chief of The Verge Nilay Patel talks to CEO of AMD Dr Lisa Su at CES 2020 about AMD's new Ryzen laptop chips, the competition with Intel for consumer laptops, and if she is going to take on the high end of Nvidia's GPUs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Microsoft’s Edge Chromium launches, NBC reveals Peacock details, and our CES takeaways
Stories this week: The Verge Awards at CES 2020: welcome to the land of the concept Eight big takeaways from CES 2020 These gaming PCs want to compete in the console wars Laptops were boring at CES, but there’s hope for the future The most important TVs of CES 2020 were finally for the masses Microsoft’s new Edge Chromium browser launches on Windows and macOS How to install extensions on Microsoft’s new Edge browser The browser wars are back, but it’s different this time Google is finally killing off Chrome apps, which nobody really used anyhow Google to 'phase out' third-party cookies in Chrome, but not for ... Roomba’s robot vacuum could grow arms in the near future OnePlus confirms its next phone will jump to a 120Hz screen Latest Galaxy S20 Plus leak shows off 120Hz display and no … Samsung’s Galaxy S20 and its many cameras revealed in leaked photos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Anna Wiener's Uncanny Valley
Anna Wiener talks to Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel about her book Uncanny Valley, a memoir about her time in Silicon Valley working for startups when they were new and flashy. Wiener also discusses the shift in tone to the reality of what technology and connection do to us and our culture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
OnePlus' CEO Pete Lau doesn't think folding phones are good enough
At CES 2020, The Verge's Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn sat down with OnePlus CEO Pete Lau in his first podcast appearance to talk about the OnePlus concept phone with a disappearing camera as well as his thoughts on newer technologies in the smartphone world, like 5G and folding phones. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
CES 2020 roundtable: Concept cars, Quibi, foldables, and more
Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Ashley Carman, and Sean O'Kane highlight the most important, weird, and surprising things The Verge saw at CES 2020. Stories from this episode: Sonos said what every smaller tech company was thinking: working with big tech sucks Amazon’s hardware boss responds to Sonos accusations of stolen technology Sony’s electric car is the best surprise of CES Byton’s 48-inch screen might not be as distracting as it looks Mercedes-Ben’s Avatar-themed concept car with scales Sony surprises with an electric concept car called the Vision-S Segway S-Pod Quibi versus the world Spotify will use everything it knows about you to target podcast ads 2020 might be the year of reasonably okay foldable PCs, maybe Foldable and dual-screen laptops desperately need Windows 10X Lenovo’s ThinkPad X1 Fold is a $2,499 PC with a folding OLED screen PS5 logo Intel NUC Extreme platform Neon CEO explains the tech behind his overhyped ‘artificial humans’ Samsung’s ‘artificial humans’ are just digital avatars This is Intel’s first discrete graphics card in 20 years, but you can’t buy one Samsung’s Ballie The most promising AirPower alternative isn’t ready yet Royole’s new smart speaker has a wraparound touch display Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
CES 2020 Day 1: Sero rotating TV, Galaxy Chromebook, and a preview of the week
Recorded live in Las Vegas, The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Ashley Carman discuss what has already been announced at the start of CES 2020 as well as what to expect throughout the week. Stories discussed in this episode: Amazon’s Fire TV soundbars will get Dolby Atmos, HDMI switching, and more later this year Samsung details its stunning bezel-less 8K TV Samsung’s new Sero TV can rotate vertically for your TikTok and Instagram videos LG unveils eight ‘Real 8K’ OLED and LCD TVs ahead of CES LG’s smart TVs are the latest to add Apple TV, and you won’t have to buy a 2020 model to get it Sony’s first TVs of 2020 include its smallest 4K OLED ever TCL will enable variable refresh rates for some TVs later this year Vizio’s 2020 lineup includes its biggest TV yet and first-ever OLED TCL’s new soundbar uses reflectors for more immersive Dolby Atmos audio Roku launches program to let third-party soundbars integrate with Roku TV Amazon’s Fire TV soundbars will get Dolby Atmos, HDMI switching, and more later this year Vizio’s new soundbar rotates its speakers for better Dolby Atmos surround sound Ring adds lightbulbs, solar power to its smart lighting lineup The Samsung Galaxy Chromebook is beautiful, fast, and expensive Segway’s newest self-balancing vehicle is an egg-shaped wheelchair My favorite thing so far at CES Dell’s Concept Ori and Concept Duet laptops imagine a foldable and dual-screen future Lenovo’s ThinkPad X1 Fold is a $2,499 PC with a folding OLED screen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The lives of YouTube moderators, a new smart home standard, and the Xbox Series X announced
Stories discussed this week: Google and YouTube moderators speak out on the work that’s … Big tech is finally working together to fix the smart home Z-Wave is making a huge change so it doesn’t get left behind in the smart home wars Ikea 2.0: inside the furniture giant’s big bet on the smart home ... This Apple Watch charger plugs directly into a USB-C port so you can carry fewer cords Xbox Series X: all the news about Microsoft’s next-gen game console Microsoft’s next Xbox is Xbox Series X, coming holiday 2020 The Xbox Series X is basically a PC The Xbox One Series X: bad name, good design Google Stadia should have stayed in beta Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The toxic work environment at Away
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks Verge news reporter Zoe Schiffer about the concerning work conditions at luggage startup Away and the details from the Verge investigation. Further reading: Former Away employees describe a toxic work environment Away replaces CEO Steph Korey after Verge investigation The Away scandal is a moment of reckoning for Slack Here’s the leaked memo in which Away tells employees not to fave The Verge’s investigation Away’s new CEO was going to be second in command — until a toxic workplace story blew up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Apple's expensive Mac Pro, gadgets of the decade, and Twitter's project Bluesky
Stories this week: Apple’s most expensive Mac Pro costs $52,599 Apple’s most expensive Pro Display XDR requires a special, Apple-made cloth to clean it You can now buy Apple's new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR … The Mac Pro's optional wheels cost $400 Logitech made a bespoke $200 magnetic 4K webcam for … Apple will reportedly release an iPhone without any ports in 2021 Lightroom finally adds direct photo import on iOS The Apple TV remote is so bad that a Swiss TV company developed a normal replacement Rewound is a new app that turns your iPhone into an iPod The Verge’s gadgets of the decade Twitter is funding research into a decentralized version of its ... A decentralized Twitter would bring the company back to its past Twitter will now let you post iOS Live Photos as GIFs Twitter is bringing back labels for US election candidates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
FaZe Clan CEO talks growing pains, global expansion, and lawsuits
Editor-in-chief of The Verge Nilay Patel and Verge reporter Julia Alexander sit down with CEO/Co-Owner of FaZe Clan Lee Trink. Lee talks how he runs a multifaceted company from working with talent to the dependence on platforms to selling apparel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Tesla Cybertruck first ride, Elon Musk's bad tweets trial, and Google's founders leaving
2:00- Tesla Cybertruck first ride: inside Elon Musk’s electric pickup truck 23:55 - Ford’s Mustang Mach-E is an electric SUV with up to 300 miles of range 30:30 - No, e-bikes aren’t cheating 37:03 - Elon Musk tries to explain Twitter in ‘pedo guy’ defamation case 1:00:55 - Paul’s weekly segment “In the apocalypse, we don’t need space bars” 1:03:23 - Google co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin relinquish control of Alphabet to CEO Sundar Pichai 1:19:05 - Qualcomm’s new Snapdragon 865 flagship is here — without integrated 5G Other links: Tesla Cybertruck will get up to 500 miles of range and start at $39,900 Elon Musk explains why Tesla’s Cybertruck windows smashed during presentation Elon Musk promises Cybertruck vs. Ford F-150 rematch after controversy Google’s third era Larry Page is the tech world’s Dr. Manhattan The rise, disappearance, and retirement of Google co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin Qualcomm’s new Snapdragon 865 promises 5G, camera, and gaming improvements In 2020, Qualcomm’s slower chips may be more important than its best ones Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 765 chip could usher in the first affordable 5G phones Emotonal Baggage: Inside the toxic work environment at Away The dark side of electronic waste recycling Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
How to fight lies, tricks, and chaos online
Verge reporter Adi Robertson talks to Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel about how to spot lies, false information, and trolling online and how to handle it as a user on the internet. Adi just published a guide on The Verge that details a system for slowing down and thinking about information — whether that information is true, false, or something in between. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices