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How much MacBook is enough MacBook?
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz discuss the Apple Macbook Air M3 review, Jon Stewart's take on AI, and a whole lot more of this week's tech news. Further reading: Apple MacBook Air M3 review: small upgrades It’s time for a hard reset on notifications Best printer 2024, best printer for home use, office use, printing labels, printer for school, homework printer you are a printer we are all printers Microsoft is working on an Xbox AI chatbot Samsung says Bixby’s still not dead The world needs more gadgets like LG’s briefcase TV Jon Stewart on AI, Lina Khan, and the other things Apple didn’t want him to say A first look at Europe’s alternative iPhone app stores Will the Apple antitrust case lawsuit affect your phone’s security? How Meta’s global head of safety approaches online age verification Is TikTok still TikTok without the algorithm?’ The US House banned staffers from using Microsoft Copilot FCC will vote on restoring net neutrality rules X’s ‘complimentary’ Premium push gives people blue checks they didn’t ask for Spotify’s price is reportedly going up again AI George Carlin case settled as performers demand better protection OpenAI’s voice cloning AI model only needs a 15-second sample to work Google Podcasts is gone — and so is my faith in Google Vote for us in the Webbys!! People’s Voice Technology Podcast Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
A better keyboard than QWERTY
Today on the flagship podcast of alternate keyboard layouts: 03:36 - The Verge’s David Pierce talks to Jonas Hietala about his ultra-custom keyboard he built from the ground up to fit his specific needs. Jonas Hietala: The T-34 keyboard layout 30:40 - The Verge’s Tom Warren explains the next phase of Microsoft with a new leader on the Windows and Surface team. Microsoft has a new Windows and Surface chief Microsoft’s first AI PCs are the Surface Pro 10 and Surface Laptop 6 for businesses Rewind’s new feature brings ChatGPT to your personal information 57:32 - David answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about tricks for Netflix recommendations. How Planet Earth — and the Netflix homepage — get made Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Power User: Taylor Lorenz on the TikTok ban
Today we're sharing an episode of a new podcast called Power User, which explores how technology and the internet are upending our lives and the world around us, hosted by tech journalist Taylor Lorenz. Listen to Power User wherever you get your podcasts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
AI headphones and clicky phone keys
Today on the flagship podcast of canceled-out cricket sounds: 03:29 - David, Andru, and Will react to prototype headphones that use AI to take noise cancellation to a whole new level. Hear how the best ANC headphones handle real world and lab tests We sent the top ANC headphones to a lab to test their noise-canceling abilities The University of Washington’s Semantic Hearing project UW’s Mobile Intelligence Lab 31:30 - Michael Fisher, aka Mr. Mobile, joins the show to discuss mobile phones with physical keyboards and his latest project, “Clicks,” an iPhone case featuring an integrated keyboard. Clicks is a BlackBerry-style iPhone keyboard case designed for creators BlackBerry kills Ryan Seacrest's iPhone keyboard 56:30 - Andru Marino answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about the best microphone for recording your parents. How to get great audio for podcast interviews Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Apple’s antitrust fight begins
The Verge's David Pierce, Alex Cranz, Lauren Feiner and Nilay Patel discuss the breaking news about the the US Department of Justice accusing Apple of operating an illegal monopoly in the smartphone market in an expansive new antitrust lawsuit. Further reading: US v. Apple: everything you need to know US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones The US Department of Justice is suing Apple — read the full lawsuit here The lock-in problem at the heart of the DOJ’s case against Apple Beeper couldn’t bring iMessage to Android — but it can still make a great chat app What else can Humane’s AI pin do? These toddler games for iPad are actually good — and that's all too rare YouTube TV’s multiview comes to iPhones and iPads in time for March Madness Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
DoorDash, Uber Eats... and Tony
Today on the flagship podcast of scaled EV production: 02:50 - Verge producer Will Poor tags along with a former Uber Eats driver who ditched the delivery apps and is trying to start a one-man gig work revolution. This Seattle Delivery Person Is Breaking Free of the Apps https://tonydelivers.co/ 18:54- The Verge's David Pierce and Andrew Hawkins discuss Rivian's new vehicles they announced last week, and what it will take for the company to compete with Tesla. Rivian R2, R3, and R3X launch event: the EV company’s more affordable SUVs are here Rivian’s CEO talks R2 and R3 launch, and why he has ‘complete certainty’ EVs will win Rivian R2 revealed: a $45,000 electric off-roader for the masses Rivian owners now have access to Tesla Superchargers Rivian surprises with R3 and R3X electric SUVs 54:37 - David and Allison Johnson answer a question from The Vergecast Hotline about foldable phones. Google Pixel Fold review: closing the gap Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5 review: a little better is just good enough Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Are we really about to ban TikTok?
The Verge 's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the US House of Representatives passing a bill that could ban TikTok, the streaming news of the week, a Dyson robot, and more. Further reading: Lawmakers introduce bill that would punish app stores for hosting TikTok TikTok ban: all the news on attempts to ban the video platform House passes bill that could ban TikTok TikTok’s fate now lies with the Senate after House advances path to a ban There might be a “TikTok Photos” app in the works to take on Instagram. TikTok CEO tells users to “make their voices heard” against a bill that could ban the app in the US. Nancy Pelosi is playing TikTok-toe. Donald Trump has even more to say about the TikTok ban. President Biden says he’ll sign a TikTok ban, if passed. TikTok is urging users to call Congress about a looming ban The TikTokers are revolting. Former Activision CEO Bobby Kotick is apparently eyeing TikTok. YouTube is revamping its TV app to make videos feel way more interactive Spotify now has music videos Neil Young’s music is back on “low res Spotify” two years after Rogan protest Neil Young says the MacBook Pro has ‘Fisher-Price’ audio quality Elon Musk cancels Don Lemon’s show on X after a ‘tense’ interview Linda Yaccarino on X: "X is becoming a video first platform” Roku hackers breach 15,000 accounts and are selling them online British monarchy rocked by bad Photoshop job The Kate Middleton photo scandal is a rare — and consequential — flub SpaceX successfully launches Starship in third flight test Apple to allow iOS app downloads direct from websites in the EU Hands-on with the Dyson 360 Vis Nav robot vacuum Nikon is acquiring US camera manufacturer RED Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The 2024 Streaming Draft (live from SXSW)
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz choose their picks for The Vergecast Streaming Draft of 2024 in front of a live audience at SXSW. Watch video version with a scoreboard on YouTube Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Hello and goodbye to the MacBook Air
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss Apple's upgraded MacBook Air, the EU's Digital Markets Act deadline for tech’s biggest “gatekeepers”, and a bunch of tech news from this week. Further reading: Apple announces upgraded MacBook Air laptops with M3 chips The MacBook Air’s wedge is truly gone — and I miss it already Apple may not do a spring event this year How the EU’s DMA is changing Big Tech: all of the news and updates How every tech ‘gatekeeper’ is responding to the DMA iOS 17.4 is here and ready for a whole new Europe Apple hit with a nearly $2 billion fine following Spotify complaint Spotify and Epic criticize Apple’s iOS changes as ‘a mockery of the DMA’ Spotify will show pricing options outside its iOS app in the EU — if Apple lets it Apple kills Epic’s iOS game store plans over App Store criticism Apple is bringing sideloading and alternate app stores to the iPhone Apple unbanned Epic so it can make an iOS games store in the EU Alternative iOS app stores won’t work (for long) outside of the EU. Here’s the new iOS default browser nag for iPhone users in Europe. Apple is officially dropping iPhone support for web apps in the EU Apple’s decision to drop iPhone web apps comes under scrutiny in the EU Now Apple says it won’t disable iPhone web apps in the EU Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
AI gadgets, bendy phones, and more from MWC
Today on the flagship podcast of region locked phones: The Verge’s Allison Johnson and Jon Porter report back on all the tech we saw at Mobile World Congress this past week. MWC 2024: all the phones, wearables, and gadgets announced in Barcelona Peering through Lenovo’s transparent laptop into a sci-fi future What if phones actually bent to our needs? The Phone 2A makes a guest appearance at Nothing’s MWC event. The Humane AI Pin worked better than I expected — until it didn’t Samsung has big ambitions for the Galaxy Ring A short gif of Infinix’s color-changing charging E Ink phone concept. Now there’s a 28,000mAh battery with a phone in it Xiaomi’s new Watch S3 has a bezel you can swap as easily as a strap. Honor’s Magic 6 Pro launches internationally with AI-powered eye tracking on the way HMD is making a Barbie flip phone alongside a smartphone for tinkerers Later, David answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about web crawlers and AI. With the rise of AI, web crawlers are suddenly controversial Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
How smart is the smart kitchen, really?
The Verge’s Jennifer Pattison Tuohy has as smart a kitchen as any reasonable person possibly could; she has smart appliances, a smart sink, a smart fridge, and more voice assistants than anyone could ever talk to. And for a few days, she tried to let her kitchen do the work: telling her what to cook, getting everything set up just right, and even taking some of the cooking and cleaning load off her shoulders. Jen kept a diary during her adventures, and then joined The Vergecast to tell the tale. The fun, frustrating, exciting, harrowing tale. Links: The Thermomix The Samsung Food app The Fresco app The GE Profile Smart Smoker The Smart Instapot Pro The Traeger Smart Wood Pellet Grill The Typhur Smart Air Fryer Tovala Smart Countertop Oven My favorite smart oven is toast Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The Apple Car crash
The Verge's Nilay Patel and David Pierce talk through the weird and winding history of Apple's "secret" car project now that it's officially dead. And later, senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner makes her Vergecast debut to catch us up on the arguments made this week in the Supreme Court about online speech and the First Amendment. Further reading: Apple’s electric car project is dead RIP to the Apple Car, we hardly knew ye Behind Apple’s Doomed Car Project: False Starts and Wrong Turns Supreme Court hears arguments on the future of online speech: all the news The Supreme Court is about to decide the future of online speech Why Uber and Etsy came up so much in the Supreme Court’s social media arguments Google CEO says Gemini AI diversity errors are 'completely unacceptable' TikTok is removing even more songs as music rights battle drags on The Humane AI Pin worked better than I expected — until it didn’t Ford offers EV owners free Tesla Supercharger adapters until July Attention English majors: now you can add handwritten notes to Google Docs Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Tales of a shopping influencer
Today on the flagship podcast of the economic theory of Dave and Busters: 02:50 - The Verge’s Mia Sato shares her experience on a new shopping app called Flip, which is filled with only videos that earn affiliate revenue. Where everyone’s an influencer and everything’s for sale 35:34 - The Verge’s Vjeran Pavic and Becca Farsace chat with David Piece about the new Fuji X100VI, and why this line of cameras was a sensation on social media. Fujifilm announces the X100VI, its follow-up to a TikTok sensation The internet's NEW favorite camera? (Fuji X100VI) Fujifilm X100T review 57:44 - Verge producer Will Poor answers a follow-up question about the right to repair legislation in this week’s Vergecast Hotline. Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The smart kitchen is a great idea — and a strange reality
Over the next two Sundays on The Vergecast, The Verge’s Jennifer Pattison-Tuohy and David Pierce dig into the dream smart kitchen, the less-than-dreamy reality of the situation, and what it might take to make cooking, cleaning, meal-prepping, and eating more efficient and more fun. On this episode, Jen takes us on a tour of her own smart(ish) kitchen, and explains why the kitchen often feels left behind in the overall smart home race. Then, Jen and David are joined by Ben Harris, the CEO of Fresco; and Nick Holzherr, the co-founder of Samsung Food. They tell us about the opportunities and challenges in reinventing the way we cook and eat, and explain why the AI revolution might usher in huge change. Further reading: This smart oven solved my work-from-home lunchtime conundrum 2023 in the smart home: Matter’s broken promises How the smart home is finally getting out of your phone and into your home Appliance makers are teaming up to reduce your electricity usage — and save you cash This smart mixer did not make me a better baker Can Samsung Food usher in a new era for the smart kitchen? Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The AIs are officially out of control
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss ChatGPT and Gemini updates, Walmart acquiring Vizio, Apple's Sports app, and more. Further reading: Google cut a deal with Reddit for AI training data Google apologizes for ‘missing the mark’ after Gemini generated racially diverse Nazis Google’s open-source Gemma AI models draw from the research behind Gemini ChatGPT spat out gibberish for many users overnight before OpenAI fixed it One month with Microsoft’s AI vision of the future: Copilot Pro Gemini, Gemma, Goose. OpenAI can’t register ‘GPT’ as a trademark — yet Artificial investment Walmart to acquire Vizio in $2.3 billion deal Echo Hub review: a simple, customizable smart home control panel Samsung details a host of audio upgrades coming to its phones, tablets, and TVs Apple says the iPhone 15’s battery got better — but won’t say how Rice is not included in Apple’s official guidance for a wet phone One of the last small-ish Android phones looks like it's going the way of the iPhone Mini OnePlus is getting back into the smartwatch game The Garmin Forerunner 165 could be a great budget running watch Sony’s PlayStation Portal hacked to run emulated PSP games Framework is selling a cheap modular laptop Wyze says camera breach let 13,000 customers briefly see into other people’s homes Apple launches Apple Sports app with scores and betting odds Apple is already defending iMessage against tomorrow’s quantum computing attacks IBM quantum computing updates: System Two and Heron Microsoft and Intel strike a custom chip manufacturing deal Rivian says it is laying off 10 percent of its workforce as EV woes deepen Ford slashes Mustang Mach-E prices again as EV price war enters its second year Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices