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Michael Hudson On Why The US Risks Becoming The Next Greece

October 12, 2020 0:53:51 51.75 MB Downloads: 0

In the wake of the Great Financial Crisis, you heard a lot of talk about the US becoming like Greece unless the budget deficit were brought under control. However, these warnings proved to be unfounded. That being said, there are risks of a different variety. On the latest Odd Lots, we speak with the economist Michael Hudson on the risk of too much private sector debt, which could lead to permanently degraded consumption and investment. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What It Takes To Win At Quant Investing

October 08, 2020 0:46:23 44.59 MB Downloads: 0

Interest in quantitative investing strategies continues to grow; however, as the space gets more competitive, making money and winning gets harder and harder. Computation costs alone can be prohibitive. On the latest episode, we speak with Columbia Business School professor Ciamac Moallemi about how the world's best quant funds thrive. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

An IMF Economist On The Challenge Of Finding The Neutral Rate Of Interest

October 05, 2020 0:49:46 47.84 MB Downloads: 0

One of the guiding lights of Fed policy over the years has been the so-called Neutral Rate of Interest or R*. It's at this rate, theoretically, where the economy comes into balance, with full employment and stable prices. Yet, not only has discovering that level become challenging, but the premise itself has been called into question. On this episode, we speak with Peter Williams, an analyst and economist at the IMF, on what it takes to find the right level, and how the concept itself can be salvaged. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Volatility Suppression Turned The Entire Economy Into One Big Carry Trade

October 01, 2020 0:42:21 40.72 MB Downloads: 0

In a carry trade, an investor borrows money cheaply to buy an asset that yields more. As long as nothing changes overall, the investors get to pocket the spread. In our latest episode, our guests argue that more and more aspects of the economy resemble this trade, and that the culprit is the policymaker suppression of volatility. We speak with Tim Lee, Jamie Lee, and Kevin Coldiron, the authors of the new book “The Rise Of Carry: The Dangerous Consequences of Volatility Suppression and the New Financial Order of Decaying Growth and Recurring Crisis”. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How All Financial Markets Turned Into The Same Big Trade

September 28, 2020 0:41:56 40.31 MB Downloads: 0

These days it seems like all financial markets are the same big trade. A gold chart looks like a Tesla chart, which looks like an Ethereum chart, which looks like a chart of a basket of cloud computing stocks. So why is this? And what could cause that to change? On this episode, we speak with Jared Woodard, the head of the Research Investment Committee at Bank of America, who recently published a report on exactly this. As Woodard explains it, the question starts with low growth and inequality, and the premium that investors will pay for certain types of securities in such an environment. He walked us through how that might change, and what investors can do in the meantime to discover under-appreciated values in the market. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This Is What Happened When They Tried To Fix Journalism Using Blockchain

September 24, 2020 0:38:48 37.3 MB Downloads: 0

Back in 2017, during the Bitcoin boom, there were a number of different attempts to use blockchain technology to improve a host of businesses and industries. Many of those were cynical attempts to cash in on the bubble, but some did have loftier ambitions. On this episode of Odd Lots, we speak with Maria Bustillos, who was the co-founder of a project called Civil, which aimed to fund a series of newsrooms, backed by their own Ethereum-based token. Maria talked about what the vision was, why it didn't work, and the lessons learned for journalism business models and new endeavors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A Top Crypto Exchange CEO Explains Why The 2020 Boom Is Different

September 21, 2020 0:49:27 47.53 MB Downloads: 0

Crypto is hot this year again. In 2020, we've not only seen a substantial rally across a lot of different coins, there's been an emergency of new experiments, categories, and protocols. Is it more sustainable this time around, or is it going to fizzle like it did last time? On this episode, we speak with Catherine Coley, the CEO of Binance US about trends in this market, why she left the traditional finance world to go crypto, and where all of this new activity is actually going.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How Traders Used Google Searches To See The Economic Recovery In Real Time

September 17, 2020 0:37:35 36.13 MB Downloads: 0

The use of so-called "alternative data" has been gathering attention for some time. Investors have been looking at things like credit cards or satellite photos of Walmart parking lots for insights into businesses before earnings or official government numbers come out. But during this crisis, alternative data has really come into its own. The speed of the crash and recovery happened so fast, it was clear that traditional numbers weren’t timely enough to get a read on what was going on. On this week's episode, we speak with Ben Breitholtz of Arbor Data Science, who explains how he's been able to monitor thousands of different categories of Google Search queries to know instantly when the recovery started to happen and what sectors of the economy were leading the way.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How SoftBank And Robinhooders Added Fuel To The Stock Market Boom

September 14, 2020 0:43:16 41.6 MB Downloads: 0

One of the most intriguing subplots to the 2020 stock market boom has been the speculative fervor with which investors have dived into this market. And it's not just that participants have bought a lot of stock, but that they've been using aggressive options strategies to do so. What's more, it's a range of players doing it, from retail traders on Robinhood (and other platforms) to large institutions like SoftBank. On this episode, we speak with Benn Eifert of QVR Advisors, who breaks it all down. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Why Blank Check Companies Are The Hottest Thing This Year

September 10, 2020 0:49:02 47.13 MB Downloads: 0

SPACs have been around a long time. The basic premise is that a group of people raise a bunch of money from public market investors, with the premise of then going out to buy a specific, individual company. They're seen as an alternative to IPOs. While historically they've had a reputation for some questionable deals, this year they've been booming. All kinds of big names like Bill Ackman and Paul Ryan (yes, that one) are getting in on the action. On this episode, we speak with Kelly Driscoll, one of the founders of the SPAC Fusion Acquisition Corp, who explains why these entities are so hot right now. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How A New Type Of Money Helped Cause The Great Financial Crisis

September 07, 2020 0:44:20 42.62 MB Downloads: 0

It's fun to talk about what money is, but often it's hard to connect the dots and make it actually relevant to the discussion of the economy and markets. But, in this episode, we do just that. Our guest is Jacob Goldstein, a co-host of Planet Money and the author of the new book, “Money: The True Story Of A Made-Up Thing”. He explains the story of money market mutual funds, how they constituted a new form of money, and how they contributed to the Great Financial Crisis.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Paul McCulley: We Are "Unambiguously" On The Verge Of A Profound Change In The Economy

September 03, 2020 1:00:03 57.7 MB Downloads: 0

Paul McCulley is a former Managing Director at PIMCO and a legend of the industry, having helped coin phrases such as "shadow banking" and the "Minsky moment." On this episode, we discuss the history of economic policy ideas, starting with the monetary and supply side revolutions roughly forty years ago, and how they've dominated thinking until today. But the break is coming. He says that we are "unambiguously" on the verge of a profound change to a more democratically managed economy (one more driven by fiscal policy), a change that will have significant changes for the real economy as well as markets and portfolio management. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Minneapolis Fed President Neel Kashkari On The Historic Challenges For Monetary Policy

August 31, 2020 0:50:03 48.1 MB Downloads: 0

The Fed is facing historic challenges for two reasons. The first is the coronavirus and the task of facilitating the economic recovery. The second challenge is one that precedes the crisis, and it has to do with how the Fed operates generally as well as the limits of effective monetary policy. How can the Fed better achieve its goals? Can monetary policy spread the benefits of growth more broadly? How can it avoid snuffing out growth prematurely? On this week’s episode, we’re joined by Minneapolis Fed President Neel Kashkari, who is thinking about all of these things and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Father Of CMBS Says We’re In ‘Uncharted Territory’ When It Comes To Valuing Real Estate

August 27, 2020 0:47:40 45.82 MB Downloads: 0

There are some sectors of the real estate market, such as suburban residential housing, that are doing just fine throughout this crisis. However, other areas are facing true existential risk. The value of commercial real estate in big cities is extremely uncertain due to the combination of the virus itself, potential migration out of cities, and the fact that so many people can work from home. On this episode, we speak with Mosaic Real Estate Partners Managing Partner Ethan Penner, who has been described as the father of Commercial Mortgage-Backed Securities, on real estate market structure and what it means for the billions of dollars worth of assets that are on the line. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The CEO of a $1.4 Billion REIT Explains The Surprising Year In Housing

August 24, 2020 0:34:46 33.38 MB Downloads: 0

When COVID hit, people had visions of a plunge in home prices and a massive wave of evictions. So far, that largely hasn’t played out. On this episode, we speak with Ivan Kaufman, the CEO of Arbor Realty Trust, a $1.4 billion player in the real estate finance market, about what’s going on, and how the industry has weathered the storm. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.