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Passkeys for a passwordless future
This week we’re talking about Passkeys with Anna Pobletts, Head of Passwordless, at 1Password. Will Passkeys enable a passwordless future? Time will tell. Anna shares the what, the why, how, and the when on Passkeys.
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Featuring:
- Anna Pobletts – LinkedIn
- Adam Stacoviak – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
- Jerod Santo – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn
Show Notes:
- Passkeys: the future of authentication in 1Password
- Passage by 1Password
- Passkeys Overview (Apple Developer)
- Supporting Passkeys (Apple Developer)
- passkeys.directory
- passkeys.dev
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Timestamps:
(00:00) - This week on The Changelog
(00:55) - Sponsor: Square
(03:54) - Start the show!
(04:56) - What is a Passkey?
(10:27) - Security win. Yes. UX win? Kinda.
(12:16) - Rhymes with SSH Keys
(12:59) - Three ways to authenticate
(17:49) - Recovery seems like an after-thought
(21:32) - How do get to a Passkey world?
(23:54) - Sponsor: Drata
(25:34) - 1Password now offering dev services
(31:50) - Don't Make Me Think™
(33:15) - Home Depot!!
(40:08) - Passage and Passkeys
(44:19) - Home Depot Passkey example
(47:21) - Sponsor: Raycast
(51:15) - Passkeys to prevent spammers
(54:18) - Back to Home Depot
(57:07) - Apple and sharing Passkeys
(59:55) - Revocation process?
(1:00:40) - What are the cons?
(1:03:02) - First steps for Passage?
(1:05:13) - Verifiable Crendentials
(1:06:46) - Passkey resources
(1:07:24) - Closing out the show
(1:08:19) - Up next!