Conversations with the hackers, leaders, and innovators of the software world. Hosts Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo face their imposter syndrome so you don’t have to. Expect in-depth interviews with the best and brightest in software engineering, open source, and leadership. This is a polyglot podcast. All programming languages, platforms, and communities are welcome. Open source moves fast. Keep up.
Even the best rides come to an end
On Monday, Kelsey Hightower announced his retirement from Google. On Tuesday, he sat down with us to discuss why, how & what’s next.
Along the way, Kelsey teaches us how not to suck at work, analyzes his magical demos, fights off the haters (again) & opines on System Initiative, Dagger & 37Signals moving off the cloud.
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Featuring:
- Kelsey Hightower – Twitter, GitHub
- Jerod Santo – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn
- Adam Stacoviak – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
Show Notes:
- “Today I’m announcing my retirement from Google.”
- Not Everyone Can Be Kelsey Hightower - Greg Poirier - YouTube
- Rebuilding DevOps from the ground up with Adam Jacob
- Why we’re leaving the cloud
- We have left the cloud
- MRSK — Deploy web apps anywhere
- Two decades as a solo indie Mac dev with Jesse Grosjean
- btop on GitHub
- Dagger
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Let's talk!
(00:38) - Kelsey needs royalties
(01:39) - The shirt off Jerod's back
(02:38) - Kelsey's announcement
(04:02) - Buying your time back
(05:27) - Not a midlife crisis
(07:34) - Retirement takes prep
(09:19) - What the runway looks like
(10:53) - We're glad you're here
(11:24) - What's true retirement?
(12:40) - Vacation time?
(14:01) - r/TVTooHigh
(20:13) - Sponsor: Changelog News
(21:46) - How to not suck
(27:05) - Magical demos
(30:36) - Anti-happy path crowd
(33:04) - Just that good
(36:24) - Casting vision
(38:34) - Problems & solutions
(40:19) - The best macOS release
(41:04) - On System Initiative
(48:56) - The network effect
(50:02) - What happened to CoreOS?
(52:41) - On 37Signals' move
(1:01:33) - MRSK: what is this?
(1:04:09) - Lightweight versions FTW
(1:05:48) - Shave the cruft
(1:06:52) - Return to the 1.0
(1:09:55) - Thoughts on Dagger
(1:15:51) - What is Dagger really?
(1:17:05) - Goal is to be removed
(1:19:32) - The DevOps end game
(1:22:51) - Kelsey's unpop
(1:27:23) - Bye friends!
(1:27:55) - Coming up next