The Stack Overflow podcast is a weekly conversation about working in software development, learning to code, and the art and culture of computer programming. Hosted by Paul Ford and Ben Popper, the series features questions from our community, interviews with fascinating guests, and hot takes on what’s happening in tech. Founded in 2008, Stack Overflow is empowering the world to develop technology through collective knowledge. It’s best known for being the largest, most trusted online community for developers and technologists. More than 100 million people come to Stack Overflow every month to ask questions, help solve coding problems, and develop new skills.
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Driverless cars give us the heebie jeebies
Before jumping into driverless car talk, Ben shares a heads up about fake jobs at credible companies that are actually phishing scams meant to steal your identity and hijack your bank accounts. Beware the job offer that seems too good to be true!Jon, Cassidy, Ceora, Matt, and Ben reflect on whether they trust software to operate a vehicle.Cassidy tells us that she once sat in a car that parked itself and screamed the entire time.Matt brings us back to reality, reminding us that airplane flights have been automated for a while now.Matt and Ben point out that in the medical technology space, robotic surgeons are so advanced that they have become more precise than human hands.Shoutout to lifeboat badge winner GKG4 for a great answer to the question “how can I check if an array index is out of range?” which has been viewed 67,000 times.Follow Jon, Ben, Ceora, Matt, and Cassidy.
The robots are coming… but when?
Despite our hope for the power of robotics, the technology is still far from mainstream. That’s because the amount of effort needed to get hardware to do useful things at scale is…well…hard.When Eliot started Viam, his goal was to address this challenge by creating software that supports a range of hardware builds right out of the box. As the company explains - “we’re addressing these issues by building a novel robotics platform that relies on standardized building blocks rather than custom code to create, configure and control robots intuitively and quickly. We’re empowering engineers – aspiring and experienced – across industries to solve complicated automation problems with our innovative software tools.” The company announced the opening of its public beta earlier this week.While Eliot elaborates on his vision for Viam, Ben reflects on his time covering drones for The Verge and working on robotics at DJI.Inquisitive badge winner, Neeta, gets props for asking well-received questions on 30 separate days.Follow Ben and Eliot on Twitter.
The right way to job hop
Ceora and Cassidy talk about why engineers are so good at job hopping — and why it can pay to upgrade roles every year or two.Ceora speaks openly about the privileges of working in tech compared to other industries.Apparently, in some places, it’s a thing for engineers to leave their teams and then rejoin the organization with a promotion to get ahead. Do you boomerang?Cassidy’s husband’s favorite interview question to ask is, “If you had a magic wand and could change one thing about this company, what would you change?”Ben poses a question about whether LinkedIn AB tests are disadvantageous to some career seekers over others.Matt introduces us to the world of AI generated Pokémon.Ceora, our resident voice of Gen Z, tells us why she thinks millennials are the only true generation to understand tech.High fives to Unique Username for answering the question “how can I print to the console using JavaScript?” You get a Lifeboat Badge for helping 140,000 people.Follow Ben, Ceora, Matt, and Cassidy.
A chat with Redhat CEO Matt Hicks on the path from developer to leader
Matt takes us back to the origins of his open source days and the spark that inspired his love for engineering — including the point at which he discovered Linux.He shares how he began learning from the code itself, which was ultimately a different style of learning than what was available to him at university. Then, it was to the stacks, but not Stack Overflow. Think Barnes and Noble, not YouTube videos.Imagine trying to navigate getting your first engineering job during the dot-com crash of the late 90s and early 2000s.We reflect on Matt's experience building projects with his daughter, including an AI-powered doorbell he built himself.Speaking of insatiable curiousity, we’d like to give a big high five to Wonton, who received the Inquisitive Badge. Thanks for coming on 30 separate days to maintain a positive question track record.Follow Matt, Ben, and Cassidy.
Meet the AI helping you chose what to watch next
Our guests have done most of their ML work on AWS offerings, from AWS Personalize for their initial recommendation engine to SageMaker for model training and deployment pipeline. Now they’re building models from scratch in TensorFlow. Want to see these recommendations in action? Check out the offerings at Discovery+ and HBOMax. If you’re a ML/AL data scientist looking to shape the future of automated curation, check out their open roles. Follow our guests on LinkedIn:Shrikant DesaiSowmya Subramanian
The many strengths of neurodivergence
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We finally return to IRL events and Cassidy becomes a CTO
Ceora shares her experience representing Auth0 at REFACTR TECH, reflecting on what it was like being back in-person after years of virtual events.Cassidy announces her move to CTO and how her current leadership role at Contenda fits into her career journey and future aspirations as a technologist.Ben talks about Stack Overflow’s Flow State, the first IRL event he’s attended since 2019 and Stack’s first ever customer conference. In case Cassidy pulled you down a rabbit hole of wondering how eels reproduce, check out this piece in the New Yorker from 2020.Be sure to follow Ceora and Cassidy on Twitter. Speaking of the power of curiosity, today’s Lifeboat badge goes to user448810 for answering the question, Feasible implementation of a prime-counting function. Thanks for helping 6,000 people gain valuable knowledge.
Don't let software steal your time
Guilo gives building UI components as an example of where software innovation has given him time back: he started building them as static images in Photoshop, then Sketch brought connected, interactive components, and Finally, Figma let you collaborate and build an entire system together. If you missed any of the previous episodes, you can find them waiting for you here. Connect with Paolo Passeri on LinkedIn. Connect with Giulio Barresi on LinkedIn. Check out more mechanical keyboard products from Logitech. Congrats to KnutKnutsen for their answer to How can I specify a one-argument constructor using Lombok?, saving the question and picking up a Lifeboat badge.
Ethereum finally merges, semiconductors stay scarce
It finally happened. In the words of the Ethereum Foundation, ETH is now “ready for its interstellar voyage,” having transitioned from proof of work to proof of stake. With no centralized authority insisting on a ship date, we’re witnessing a feat. We’re all wondering what comes next. The Great Debate about hybrid and remote work continues. Is the decentralized talent movement winning? What can we do to prevent cabin fever? What do government workers do with their laptops if they need to cross the border?The semiconductor chip shortage hasn’t ended yet, but some companies seem to be hurting more than others. What gives?We conclude with a reflection on the new Apple Watch—and whether it can actually save our lives.Be sure to follow @mattkander and @benpopper on Twitter to keep the convo going.Big thanks to Androidian who is our latest Inquisitive badge recipient for coming to Stack Overflow for 30 separate days, maintaining a positive question record.Catch you all later.
We hate Scrum and Agile too
About three years ago, when our public platform engineering team at Stack started growing, we realized that we needed a more robust formal project management system that could scale with all the creativity coming on board. That’s when we started looking at formal, by-the-book frameworks to empower and coach our teams to their fullest potential. We landed on Agile and Scrum. Admittedly, our development team was nervous about implementing Scrum and Agile at first. So we focused on the goals of introspection and accountability rather than the rigidness of enforcement.Agile and Scrum get a lot of hate. But is that their fault or are you doing it wrong?We talked about this on the podcast a few years ago, when Ben, Paul, and Sara wondered, “Is Scrum making you a worse engineer?” It’s about providing support—not punishing people. Done right, Agile and Scrum can be a force of freedom and autonomy when they start with trust.Connect with Shanda and Jon on LinkedIn.We conclude with a big high five to Lifeboat badge winner jminkler for their answer to how to create an Instagram share link in PHP (thank you).‘Til next time.
Five nines uptime without developer burnout
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Can integrating hardware with software save developers time and energy?
We dive into some of the ways developers can customize their keyboard with shortcuts, macros, and apps to eliminate repetitive tasks and automate the busywork that stands in the way of bigger, breakthrough innovations. Flow state can be affected by things as simple as the right lighting, so Logitech created keyboards that automatically adjust their keyboard backlighting. For those not familiar with the MX series, you can read more about the different versions, including the mechanical one, here.If you don’t know about Cassidy’s passion for keyboards, you can check out her website here or listen to a previous episode diving deep into the details of mechanical keyboards here.If you missed episode two, you can check it out below. In it, we chat with Marcel Twohig, Head of Design for the MX Series at Logitech, and Thomas Fritz, Associate Professor of Human Aspects of Software Engineering at the University of Zurich. We cover the research that Professor Fritz has done on flow states, the design work that Marcel and team have done to incorporate that research, and the tools that you can use to maximize your daily flow.Learn more about Paolo here.Learn more about Guilio here.
A serial entrepreneur finally embraces open source
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Hypergrowth headaches
Like a lot of good tools, Backstage started as a way to stop using a spreadsheet. They knew it was something worth open-sourcing when conference attendees paid more attention to the tool than the topics of the talks. Backstage treats docs-like-code, keeping markdown files in the same repo as the code. Down with wikis, up with pull requests!If you want to learn more about Backstage, check out our recent webinar with Emma Indal, a web engineer at Spotify.
What science says about achieving the flow state
Show notesIf you’re interested in diving deeper into Professor Fritz’s research on developer flow states, check out his list of publications. Flow states can be affected by things as simple as the right lighting, so Logitech created keyboards that automatically adjust their keyboard backlighting. Lights can be used to indicate your interruptibility.; Prof. Fritz did some research on FlowLight, which indicates your willingness to be interrupted with a simple red light/green light protocol. These days, you can use your Slack status to the same effect. If you’re looking for apps to improve your daily flow, Cassidy recommends Centered.