Conversations with the hackers, leaders, and innovators of the software world. Hosts Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo face their imposter syndrome so you don’t have to. Expect in-depth interviews with the best and brightest in software engineering, open source, and leadership. This is a polyglot podcast. All programming languages, platforms, and communities are welcome. Open source moves fast. Keep up.

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May 23, 2025 1:08:07 65.56 MB Downloads: 0

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Refactored in prison (Interview)

May 23, 2025 1:42:14 147.37 MB Downloads: 0

Preston Thorpe joins us from inside prison, where he awaits a hopeful release within the next 12 months. His journey has been anything but easy—marked by hardship and uncertainty. But over the past few years, Preston has undergone a profound transformation. He’s refactored not just his skills, but his identity. Today, he proudly calls himself a software engineer and an open source contributor. In this episode, Preston shares his story of redemption, resilience, and what comes next.

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May 19, 2025 07:39 7.87 MB Downloads: 0

Microsoft finally opens the source of WSL, Paolo Scanferla describes an inherent trade-off in TypeScript's type system, Alberto Fortin is taking a step back from heavy LLM use while coding, a pseudonymous hacker spent two weeks coding from their Android phone, and NLWeb might become the HTML of the open agentic web.

#define: I'm going pants (Friends)

May 16, 2025 1:44:26 100.43 MB Downloads: 0

Welcome back to #define, our game of obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery. We've gathered some awesome friends, new and old, to see who has the best vocabulary and who can trick the everyone else into thinking that they do.

NATS and the CNCF kerfuffle (Interview)

May 16, 2025 1:36:21 138.91 MB Downloads: 0

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A critical look at MCP (News)

May 12, 2025 08:13 8.06 MB Downloads: 0

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Kaizen! Tip of the Pipely (Friends)

May 09, 2025 1:42:01 98.11 MB Downloads: 0

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May 02, 2025 1:40:24 97.8 MB Downloads: 0

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